5 Ways to Find Your Target Audience for SEO with Umar Faizan

in my opinion seos are not going to out in my opinion seos are not going to out of business in next like 3 to 5 years

of business in next like 3 to 5 years of business in next like 3 to 5 years this is just my assumption based on my

this is just my assumption based on my this is just my assumption based on my past six years experience so in my

past six years experience so in my past six years experience so in my opinion affers are going to be out of

opinion affers are going to be out of opinion affers are going to be out of the business really soon if they don't

the business really soon if they don't the business really soon if they don't you know understand these things like uh

you know understand these things like uh you know understand these things like uh serving Their audience really well or

serving Their audience really well or serving Their audience really well or defining it at defining it at defining it at least I'm John wght and you're listening

least I'm John wght and you're listening least I'm John wght and you're listening to affiliate bi the business

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welcome to the affiliate bi podcast welcome to the affiliate bi podcast today we're chatting with Umar fizan who

today we're chatting with Umar fizan who today we're chatting with Umar fizan who is the founder of growth winner and I

is the founder of growth winner and I is the founder of growth winner and I know he's the real deal because mad's

know he's the real deal because mad's know he's the real deal because mad's singers recommended him and I'm going

singers recommended him and I'm going singers recommended him and I'm going through umar's YouTube content and

through umar's YouTube content and through umar's YouTube content and Linkedin content to come up with

Linkedin content to come up with Linkedin content to come up with questions to ask them I've got a lot of

questions to ask them I've got a lot of questions to ask them I've got a lot of notes here but I'm spending a lot more

notes here but I'm spending a lot more notes here but I'm spending a lot more time studying and learning so let's just

time studying and learning so let's just time studying and learning so let's just jump right into it Umar welcome to the

jump right into it Umar welcome to the jump right into it Umar welcome to the show thank you so much for having me

show thank you so much for having me show thank you so much for having me John thank you so much so I want to

John thank you so much so I want to John thank you so much so I want to start by playing a game called follow

start by playing a game called follow start by playing a game called follow the SEO money and I wanted to ask you

the SEO money and I wanted to ask you the SEO money and I wanted to ask you what niches or channels do you know that

what niches or channels do you know that what niches or channels do you know that sdos are making good money

from honestly speaking uh I don't work from honestly speaking uh I don't work in that domain but uh most richest seos

in that domain but uh most richest seos in that domain but uh most richest seos that I ever seen are in igaming or you

that I ever seen are in igaming or you that I ever seen are in igaming or you can say gambling but uh since I don't do

can say gambling but uh since I don't do can say gambling but uh since I don't do that but I would recommend going for

that but I would recommend going for that but I would recommend going for like Finance net uh there is a lot of

like Finance net uh there is a lot of like Finance net uh there is a lot of money to be made and then and then

money to be made and then and then money to be made and then and then Insurance kind of things so uh I think

Insurance kind of things so uh I think Insurance kind of things so uh I think like there is a lot of money to be made

like there is a lot of money to be made like there is a lot of money to be made in SEO no matter what the Nate is uh

in SEO no matter what the Nate is uh in SEO no matter what the Nate is uh these days I go for audience rather than

these days I go for audience rather than these days I go for audience rather than targeting the net so for example I'm

targeting the net so for example I'm targeting the net so for example I'm going to Target podcasters for my

going to Target podcasters for my going to Target podcasters for my website whether it's the affiliate one

website whether it's the affiliate one website whether it's the affiliate one whether I'm selling some e-commerce

whether I'm selling some e-commerce whether I'm selling some e-commerce products for podcasters or anything like

products for podcasters or anything like products for podcasters or anything like that uh but I'm going to Target the

that uh but I'm going to Target the that uh but I'm going to Target the audience rather than targeting a nich so

audience rather than targeting a nich so audience rather than targeting a nich so I have stopped doing like the niche

I have stopped doing like the niche I have stopped doing like the niche research or anything like that uh but

research or anything like that uh but research or anything like that uh but I'm really digging down on the audience

I'm really digging down on the audience I'm really digging down on the audience thing like where is where is the gap in

thing like where is where is the gap in thing like where is where is the gap in the market and where I can Target it

the market and where I can Target it the market and where I can Target it so honestly speaking uh when you are

so honestly speaking uh when you are so honestly speaking uh when you are directly connected with your audience

directly connected with your audience directly connected with your audience and I always say this you don't really

and I always say this you don't really and I always say this you don't really own the SEO traffic and when you on your

own the SEO traffic and when you on your own the SEO traffic and when you on your SEO traffic for example in the form of

SEO traffic for example in the form of SEO traffic for example in the form of email list you can sell them whatever

email list you can sell them whatever email list you can sell them whatever you want right in the form of digital

you want right in the form of digital you want right in the form of digital products in the form of e-commerce

products in the form of e-commerce products in the form of e-commerce product in the form of L doesn't matter

product in the form of L doesn't matter product in the form of L doesn't matter if it's low ticket High ticket whatever

if it's low ticket High ticket whatever if it's low ticket High ticket whatever it is so that's really the answer yeah

it is so that's really the answer yeah it is so that's really the answer yeah okay now I was going through some of

okay now I was going through some of okay now I was going through some of your content and I saw something that

your content and I saw something that your content and I saw something that talked about like Amazon like people

talked about like Amazon like people talked about like Amazon like people that do Amazon SEO as being making like

that do Amazon SEO as being making like that do Amazon SEO as being making like you know good money so I'm guessing you know good money so I'm guessing you know good money so I'm guessing there's like you said there's different

there's like you said there's different there's like you said there's different niches in product but then I think

niches in product but then I think niches in product but then I think there's also different types ofo like

there's also different types ofo like there's also different types ofo like you have some that they specialize in

you have some that they specialize in you have some that they specialize in link building in digital PR and I saw

link building in digital PR and I saw link building in digital PR and I saw this one with Amazon that you posted and

this one with Amazon that you posted and this one with Amazon that you posted and it just kind of threw me off I'm like

it just kind of threw me off I'm like it just kind of threw me off I'm like well of course Amazon's a thing that you

well of course Amazon's a thing that you well of course Amazon's a thing that you would try to rank for and it goes with

would try to rank for and it goes with would try to rank for and it goes with saying there's even like trying to rank

saying there's even like trying to rank saying there's even like trying to rank apps like with ASO and you know these

apps like with ASO and you know these apps like with ASO and you know these things are just

things are just things are just different so uh in my opinion like

different so uh in my opinion like different so uh in my opinion like whenever someone says I am an SEO always

whenever someone says I am an SEO always whenever someone says I am an SEO always always ask them on which platform or you

always ask them on which platform or you always ask them on which platform or you know where they do SEO right so you we

know where they do SEO right so you we know where they do SEO right so you we have YouTube SEO you know Amazon SEO and

have YouTube SEO you know Amazon SEO and have YouTube SEO you know Amazon SEO and what most of us guys do is just Google

what most of us guys do is just Google what most of us guys do is just Google right we optimize the websites for

right we optimize the websites for right we optimize the websites for Google search engine right and then uh

Google search engine right and then uh Google search engine right and then uh if we are doing it for like Yahoo or

if we are doing it for like Yahoo or if we are doing it for like Yahoo or bang or anything like that it's

bang or anything like that it's bang or anything like that it's perfectly optimized uh ultimately right

perfectly optimized uh ultimately right perfectly optimized uh ultimately right so uh with the Amazon thing that you

so uh with the Amazon thing that you so uh with the Amazon thing that you recommended it's very very powerful

recommended it's very very powerful recommended it's very very powerful since the the compared cost of PPC on

since the the compared cost of PPC on since the the compared cost of PPC on Amazon is so much high so for example if

Amazon is so much high so for example if Amazon is so much high so for example if you have got a product of let's say like

you have got a product of let's say like you have got a product of let's say like uh it's $5,000 or you know anything like

uh it's $5,000 or you know anything like uh it's $5,000 or you know anything like that even if it's like $1,000 Plus it's

that even if it's like $1,000 Plus it's that even if it's like $1,000 Plus it's a high ticket uh product and if you're

a high ticket uh product and if you're a high ticket uh product and if you're doing SEO and generating sales for that

doing SEO and generating sales for that doing SEO and generating sales for that business just through SEO they don't

business just through SEO they don't business just through SEO they don't have to spend uh on PPC and Amazon

have to spend uh on PPC and Amazon have to spend uh on PPC and Amazon algorithm is not bad I'm sorry for

algorithm is not bad I'm sorry for algorithm is not bad I'm sorry for the words but again like just like

the words but again like just like the words but again like just like Google right there are no like not a lot

Google right there are no like not a lot Google right there are no like not a lot of crazy updates happening uh you know

of crazy updates happening uh you know of crazy updates happening uh you know every single second and every single day

every single second and every single day every single second and every single day I know I get it like there are a lot of

I know I get it like there are a lot of I know I get it like there are a lot of updates on Amazon as well but it's not

updates on Amazon as well but it's not updates on Amazon as well but it's not like Google so it's uh kind of more St

like Google so it's uh kind of more St like Google so it's uh kind of more St uh stable in my opinion so that's really

uh stable in my opinion so that's really uh stable in my opinion so that's really thing so if if someone says like I'm an

thing so if if someone says like I'm an thing so if if someone says like I'm an SEO ask them like do you do YouTube SEO

SEO ask them like do you do YouTube SEO SEO ask them like do you do YouTube SEO or Google SEO or do you do Amazon SEO so

or Google SEO or do you do Amazon SEO so or Google SEO or do you do Amazon SEO so in my opinion like Amazon SEO in my opinion like Amazon SEO in my opinion like Amazon SEO Consultants are highly paid as well and

Consultants are highly paid as well and Consultants are highly paid as well and I have heard one of my friend who is

I have heard one of my friend who is I have heard one of my friend who is Amazon consultant he makes a lot of

Amazon consultant he makes a lot of Amazon consultant he makes a lot of money you know so that's really the

money you know so that's really the money you know so that's really the thing like uh if if Google is dead

thing like uh if if Google is dead thing like uh if if Google is dead tomorrow no problem at all you know the

tomorrow no problem at all you know the tomorrow no problem at all you know the basics of SEO you know everything like

basics of SEO you know everything like basics of SEO you know everything like from the title tags to you know building

from the title tags to you know building from the title tags to you know building the links and so on so forth so you

the links and so on so forth so you the links and so on so forth so you really understand what search engine

really understand what search engine really understand what search engine optimization is so go ahead and explore

optimization is so go ahead and explore optimization is so go ahead and explore other platforms where you can Doo for

other platforms where you can Doo for other platforms where you can Doo for like Pinterest as well all right the

like Pinterest as well all right the like Pinterest as well all right the Pinterest works really really well for

Pinterest works really really well for Pinterest works really really well for niches where images are very much

niches where images are very much niches where images are very much promoted promoted promoted so that's interesting so I guess it's

so that's interesting so I guess it's so that's interesting so I guess it's kind of like there's a bunch of things kind of like there's a bunch of things kind of like there's a bunch of things that play cuz you talked about audience

that play cuz you talked about audience that play cuz you talked about audience and maybe for you it seems obvious that

and maybe for you it seems obvious that and maybe for you it seems obvious that you start with the audience and then you start with the audience and then you start with the audience and then you're like well we're going after the you're like well we're going after the you're like well we're going after the audience where does the audience live

audience where does the audience live audience where does the audience live and I find going taking this to the

and I find going taking this to the and I find going taking this to the affiliate side I think a lot of

affiliate side I think a lot of affiliate side I think a lot of Affiliates they don't really think about Affiliates they don't really think about Affiliates they don't really think about where Their audience lives they just where Their audience lives they just where Their audience lives they just think I'm going after Google because

think I'm going after Google because think I'm going after Google because it's the biggest market share but I

it's the biggest market share but I it's the biggest market share but I think people are leaving things like uh

think people are leaving things like uh think people are leaving things like uh like YouTube like podcasts uh maybe even

like YouTube like podcasts uh maybe even like YouTube like podcasts uh maybe even like Amazon it's like what kind of like Amazon it's like what kind of like Amazon it's like what kind of products could you inject in Amazon and

products could you inject in Amazon and products could you inject in Amazon and I think the easiest one anyone can think

I think the easiest one anyone can think I think the easiest one anyone can think about is a book but at the same time you

about is a book but at the same time you about is a book but at the same time you can still inject your podcast into to

can still inject your podcast into to can still inject your podcast into to Amazon so uh do you think that there's

Amazon so uh do you think that there's Amazon so uh do you think that there's going to be a lot of seos that are going

going to be a lot of seos that are going going to be a lot of seos that are going to be out of business because if Google

to be out of business because if Google to be out of business because if Google keeps changing the way it is and seos

keeps changing the way it is and seos keeps changing the way it is and seos don't really change how they target

don't really change how they target don't really change how they target their own customers like I I believe

their own customers like I I believe their own customers like I I believe people like you are going to be gaining

people like you are going to be gaining people like you are going to be gaining more business but I'm wondering if

more business but I'm wondering if more business but I'm wondering if there's a pile of SEO people out there

there's a pile of SEO people out there there's a pile of SEO people out there that are going to suffer and Affiliates

that are going to suffer and Affiliates that are going to suffer and Affiliates are going to suffer because they have are going to suffer because they have are going to suffer because they have the wrong mindset on

the wrong mindset on the wrong mindset on audience yeah so uh in my opinion seos

audience yeah so uh in my opinion seos audience yeah so uh in my opinion seos are not going to out of business in next

are not going to out of business in next are not going to out of business in next like three to 5 years this is just my

like three to 5 years this is just my like three to 5 years this is just my assumption based on my past six years

assumption based on my past six years assumption based on my past six years experience so in my

experience so in my experience so in my opinion Affiliates are going to be out

opinion Affiliates are going to be out opinion Affiliates are going to be out of the business really soon if they

of the business really soon if they of the business really soon if they don't you know understand these things

don't you know understand these things don't you know understand these things like uh serving Their audience really

like uh serving Their audience really like uh serving Their audience really well or defining it at least right so as

well or defining it at least right so as well or defining it at least right so as you said like they don't really know who

you said like they don't really know who you said like they don't really know who Their audience is so that's their main

Their audience is so that's their main Their audience is so that's their main reason they can't crank out the content

reason they can't crank out the content reason they can't crank out the content uh that really speaks to Their audience

uh that really speaks to Their audience uh that really speaks to Their audience I'm not talking about that okay

I'm not talking about that okay I'm not talking about that okay right the more most helpful content on

right the more most helpful content on right the more most helpful content on the earth and so on so forth right you

the earth and so on so forth right you the earth and so on so forth right you are at the end of the day you are

are at the end of the day you are are at the end of the day you are optimizing your website for search

optimizing your website for search optimizing your website for search engine right if the content is really

engine right if the content is really engine right if the content is really optimized but it's not really serving

optimized but it's not really serving optimized but it's not really serving your target audience if they are not

your target audience if they are not your target audience if they are not enjoying your content you're not really

enjoying your content you're not really enjoying your content you're not really building a connection with them so this

building a connection with them so this building a connection with them so this is the rule that I follow while you know

is the rule that I follow while you know is the rule that I follow while you know creating the content is really really

creating the content is really really creating the content is really really creating it for one person in my

creating it for one person in my creating it for one person in my audience right so uh when when I'm

audience right so uh when when I'm audience right so uh when when I'm writing it for one person that means

writing it for one person that means writing it for one person that means there are there are there are thousands of people or even millions of

thousands of people or even millions of thousands of people or even millions of people like that one person and I'm

people like that one person and I'm people like that one person and I'm solving that problem for them this is

solving that problem for them this is solving that problem for them this is the number one thing the second thing is

the number one thing the second thing is the number one thing the second thing is uh with the affer stuff when when you

uh with the affer stuff when when you uh with the affer stuff when when you don't leverage uh YouTube and other

don't leverage uh YouTube and other don't leverage uh YouTube and other stuffs like that at the end of at the

stuffs like that at the end of at the stuffs like that at the end of at the end of the day my goal is to increase

end of the day my goal is to increase end of the day my goal is to increase the value of my business I'm not chasing

the value of my business I'm not chasing the value of my business I'm not chasing like after affiliate commissions and

like after affiliate commissions and like after affiliate commissions and just like that right so how you can

just like that right so how you can just like that right so how you can increase the value of your business is

increase the value of your business is increase the value of your business is adding multip revenue streams as well as

adding multip revenue streams as well as adding multip revenue streams as well as the multiple traffic sources or being a

the multiple traffic sources or being a the multiple traffic sources or being a marketer I call it like where you can

marketer I call it like where you can marketer I call it like where you can get more and more attention span and

get more and more attention span and get more and more attention span and where you can you know just acquire that

where you can you know just acquire that where you can you know just acquire that attention and nowadays it's it's really

attention and nowadays it's it's really attention and nowadays it's it's really the currency in my opinion so that's

the currency in my opinion so that's the currency in my opinion so that's really thing yeah it's kind of

really thing yeah it's kind of really thing yeah it's kind of interesting because I I recorded Julian

interesting because I I recorded Julian interesting because I I recorded Julian Goldie not long ago and I started asking

Goldie not long ago and I started asking Goldie not long ago and I started asking him about this idea about having you

him about this idea about having you him about this idea about having you know YouTube videos that might not have

know YouTube videos that might not have know YouTube videos that might not have a lot of views but actually have sales

a lot of views but actually have sales a lot of views but actually have sales behind it and he said what he likes

behind it and he said what he likes behind it and he said what he likes about YouTube is that it's got like a about YouTube is that it's got like a about YouTube is that it's got like a high engagement rate or the ability to

high engagement rate or the ability to high engagement rate or the ability to sell something is a lot easier so he

sell something is a lot easier so he sell something is a lot easier so he said even if you've got a video with

said even if you've got a video with said even if you've got a video with like one or 200 views he's like I don't

like one or 200 views he's like I don't like one or 200 views he's like I don't care what he cares about is like knowing

care what he cares about is like knowing care what he cares about is like knowing that it actually delivers real traffic

that it actually delivers real traffic that it actually delivers real traffic and I'm wondering if Affiliates are kind

and I'm wondering if Affiliates are kind and I'm wondering if Affiliates are kind of stuck in this mindset that more

of stuck in this mindset that more of stuck in this mindset that more traffic is what they need but they're traffic is what they need but they're traffic is what they need but they're not focusing on more quality traffic or

not focusing on more quality traffic or not focusing on more quality traffic or converting their quality traffic or even

converting their quality traffic or even converting their quality traffic or even converting their traffic it's like uh I

converting their traffic it's like uh I converting their traffic it's like uh I just think because they've made so much

just think because they've made so much just think because they've made so much money in the past that they're not

money in the past that they're not money in the past that they're not really willing to change or they need a

really willing to change or they need a really willing to change or they need a shakeup for them to realize hey um you

shakeup for them to realize hey um you shakeup for them to realize hey um you either have to adapt understand your

either have to adapt understand your either have to adapt understand your audience or or move out of the

audience or or move out of the audience or or move out of the way yeah so in my opinion like with

way yeah so in my opinion like with way yeah so in my opinion like with these engagement metrics and stuff like

these engagement metrics and stuff like these engagement metrics and stuff like this if you have got a video for let's

this if you have got a video for let's this if you have got a video for let's say like 1,000 views and you are getting

say like 1,000 views and you are getting say like 1,000 views and you are getting like 1% conversion like very little

like 1% conversion like very little like 1% conversion like very little conversion out of like you're getting

conversion out of like you're getting conversion out of like you're getting customers out of it but you if you have

customers out of it but you if you have customers out of it but you if you have got like 100k a video with 100K views

got like 100k a video with 100K views got like 100k a video with 100K views and you are getting like 10% conversion

and you are getting like 10% conversion and you are getting like 10% conversion that like I'm not doing the maths in my

that like I'm not doing the maths in my that like I'm not doing the maths in my mind but again that doesn't matter like

mind but again that doesn't matter like mind but again that doesn't matter like if you are not making money out of it

if you are not making money out of it if you are not making money out of it I'm sorry so if you are not making money

I'm sorry so if you are not making money I'm sorry so if you are not making money out of it uh so I think like the views

out of it uh so I think like the views out of it uh so I think like the views and the engagement that doesn't really

and the engagement that doesn't really and the engagement that doesn't really matter at all uh at the end of the day

matter at all uh at the end of the day matter at all uh at the end of the day so with the Julian stuff uh if if it

so with the Julian stuff uh if if it so with the Julian stuff uh if if it doesn't help you and if especially if

doesn't help you and if especially if doesn't help you and if especially if you are into the lead and affiliate

you are into the lead and affiliate you are into the lead and affiliate stuff and uh you are selling the

stuff and uh you are selling the stuff and uh you are selling the services or anything like that being an

services or anything like that being an services or anything like that being an affiliate marketer uh it really helps

affiliate marketer uh it really helps affiliate marketer uh it really helps you to build your Authority in the form

you to build your Authority in the form you to build your Authority in the form of like YouTube videos and stuff like

of like YouTube videos and stuff like of like YouTube videos and stuff like that uh I'm going to give you example of

that uh I'm going to give you example of that uh I'm going to give you example of Creek here Creek cble so for example if

Creek here Creek cble so for example if Creek here Creek cble so for example if he's an affiliate uh with your company

he's an affiliate uh with your company he's an affiliate uh with your company uh like you sell you know affiliate

uh like you sell you know affiliate uh like you sell you know affiliate software but let's say he's an affiliate

software but let's say he's an affiliate software but let's say he's an affiliate with you so he has got a really good

with you so he has got a really good with you so he has got a really good like following on YouTube Instagram and

like following on YouTube Instagram and like following on YouTube Instagram and you know uh platforms like these that

you know uh platforms like these that you know uh platforms like these that really helps build him Authority in the

really helps build him Authority in the really helps build him Authority in the prospect's mind like this guy has got

prospect's mind like this guy has got prospect's mind like this guy has got really good following his influencer

really good following his influencer really good following his influencer like people are going to listen to him

like people are going to listen to him like people are going to listen to him when he's speaking right so for example

when he's speaking right so for example when he's speaking right so for example if I'm speaking beside him and let's say

if I'm speaking beside him and let's say if I'm speaking beside him and let's say I don't have that much influence that

I don't have that much influence that I don't have that much influence that Craig has so people are going to listen

Craig has so people are going to listen Craig has so people are going to listen to him Craig first that's just the

to him Craig first that's just the to him Craig first that's just the psychology that's not just the problem

psychology that's not just the problem psychology that's not just the problem that I'm not famous or anything like that I'm not famous or anything like that I'm not famous or anything like that that's the power power of influence

that that's the power power of influence that that's the power power of influence in my opinion so definely the thing

in my opinion so definely the thing in my opinion so definely the thing which at some point in time when Craig

which at some point in time when Craig which at some point in time when Craig Associates with you then people be okay

Associates with you then people be okay Associates with you then people be okay well if I can trust Craig then I can well if I can trust Craig then I can well if I can trust Craig then I can trust Umar yeah 100% yes I agree yeah

trust Umar yeah 100% yes I agree yeah trust Umar yeah 100% yes I agree yeah 100% okay um so I got a branding

100% okay um so I got a branding 100% okay um so I got a branding question which I think you might you

question which I think you might you question which I think you might you probably know the answer to so I know

probably know the answer to so I know probably know the answer to so I know you were going through my YouTube

you were going through my YouTube you were going through my YouTube channel and you corrected one of my channel and you corrected one of my channel and you corrected one of my links because you know we shared a

links because you know we shared a links because you know we shared a document and I've been posting most of

document and I've been posting most of document and I've been posting most of my stuff on my company's uh YouTube

my stuff on my company's uh YouTube my stuff on my company's uh YouTube channel and I think with you you publish

channel and I think with you you publish channel and I think with you you publish most of your stuff on your personal so I

most of your stuff on your personal so I most of your stuff on your personal so I have content that's mostly created by me

have content that's mostly created by me have content that's mostly created by me I have content that can be created by my

I have content that can be created by my I have content that can be created by my company do you think I should split up

company do you think I should split up company do you think I should split up my content uh from our my personal

my content uh from our my personal my content uh from our my personal versus YouTube and build both channels

versus YouTube and build both channels versus YouTube and build both channels in in in parallel yeah so uh like this is how I

parallel yeah so uh like this is how I parallel yeah so uh like this is how I would do it if I'm at your place uh

would do it if I'm at your place uh would do it if I'm at your place uh honestly speaking people really love

honestly speaking people really love honestly speaking people really love talking people not the businesses itself

talking people not the businesses itself talking people not the businesses itself right and this is not the quotation from

right and this is not the quotation from right and this is not the quotation from a motivational speaker and this is what

a motivational speaker and this is what a motivational speaker and this is what I experienced personally I have been

I experienced personally I have been I experienced personally I have been posting on my I you know I posted around

posting on my I you know I posted around posting on my I you know I posted around like one post per day for like one year

like one post per day for like one year like one post per day for like one year on my uh LinkedIn you know my company

on my uh LinkedIn you know my company on my uh LinkedIn you know my company page as well as on my Facebook company

page as well as on my Facebook company page as well as on my Facebook company page I only got like one like or two

page I only got like one like or two page I only got like one like or two likes per day and no conversion at all

likes per day and no conversion at all likes per day and no conversion at all like literally zero conversion by

like literally zero conversion by like literally zero conversion by conversion I mean clients so uh when I

conversion I mean clients so uh when I conversion I mean clients so uh when I started posting on my you know my

started posting on my you know my started posting on my you know my personal Facebook profile personal

personal Facebook profile personal personal Facebook profile personal LinkedIn profile I really started

LinkedIn profile I really started LinkedIn profile I really started getting engagement uh there and you know

getting engagement uh there and you know getting engagement uh there and you know people really started asking questions

people really started asking questions people really started asking questions uh you know there so uh with with with

uh you know there so uh with with with uh you know there so uh with with with the companies and with the personal

the companies and with the personal the companies and with the personal profile what happens is when we see any

profile what happens is when we see any profile what happens is when we see any you know post from a company we just

you know post from a company we just you know post from a company we just scroll up there it like we really have

scroll up there it like we really have scroll up there it like we really have the idea oh okay it will be somewhere

the idea oh okay it will be somewhere the idea oh okay it will be somewhere allow like uh they they must be selling

allow like uh they they must be selling allow like uh they they must be selling some stuff or they are you know after my

some stuff or they are you know after my some stuff or they are you know after my money this is just you know in our

money this is just you know in our money this is just you know in our subconscious mind this is not happening

subconscious mind this is not happening subconscious mind this is not happening real time but this is somewhere in our

real time but this is somewhere in our real time but this is somewhere in our mind like uh this is just to sell the

mind like uh this is just to sell the mind like uh this is just to sell the stuff that's it when whenever they see

stuff that's it when whenever they see stuff that's it when whenever they see the company unless it's from like for

the company unless it's from like for the company unless it's from like for example Nike apple or globally

example Nike apple or globally example Nike apple or globally recognized brand since they really love

recognized brand since they really love recognized brand since they really love those brand they really have association

those brand they really have association those brand they really have association with those Brands uh but we don't have

with those Brands uh but we don't have with those Brands uh but we don't have Brands like them and I'm not not going

Brands like them and I'm not not going Brands like them and I'm not not going to talk about that like build a

to talk about that like build a to talk about that like build a brand and you know just like be apple

brand and you know just like be apple brand and you know just like be apple and Nike we're not going to do that like

and Nike we're not going to do that like and Nike we're not going to do that like we don't have much Investments and uh

we don't have much Investments and uh we don't have much Investments and uh that resources but again uh at the

that resources but again uh at the that resources but again uh at the personal level I would recommend like

personal level I would recommend like personal level I would recommend like highly recommend doing it with your uh

highly recommend doing it with your uh highly recommend doing it with your uh personal uh profile on your socials

personal uh profile on your socials personal uh profile on your socials whether it's YouTube Facebook or uh

whether it's YouTube Facebook or uh whether it's YouTube Facebook or uh Linkin and last recommendation is if you

Linkin and last recommendation is if you Linkin and last recommendation is if you are starting with the Facebook I would

are starting with the Facebook I would are starting with the Facebook I would highly recommend you and that was little

highly recommend you and that was little highly recommend you and that was little bit my mistake as well is going with the

bit my mistake as well is going with the bit my mistake as well is going with the Facebook page with your name rather than

Facebook page with your name rather than Facebook page with your name rather than a Facebook profile because with Facebook

a Facebook profile because with Facebook a Facebook profile because with Facebook profile you have your friends in there

profile you have your friends in there profile you have your friends in there like SEO friend uh and when you're

like SEO friend uh and when you're like SEO friend uh and when you're posting your stuff uh they don't really

posting your stuff uh they don't really posting your stuff uh they don't really want to learn from you for example I

want to learn from you for example I want to learn from you for example I have friends like Matt digity Kyle rof

have friends like Matt digity Kyle rof have friends like Matt digity Kyle rof you know Jason as well as like you know

you know Jason as well as like you know you know Jason as well as like you know all big guys in the game so they don't

all big guys in the game so they don't all big guys in the game so they don't really want to you know uh listen to the

really want to you know uh listen to the really want to you know uh listen to the staff or always reading the pause they

staff or always reading the pause they staff or always reading the pause they can you know give the like or comment to

can you know give the like or comment to can you know give the like or comment to you know increase the reach or anything

you know increase the reach or anything you know increase the reach or anything like that but they are not in the

like that but they are not in the like that but they are not in the learning mode there so if you have your

learning mode there so if you have your learning mode there so if you have your Facebook page only those people are

Facebook page only those people are Facebook page only those people are going to like it that really want to

going to like it that really want to going to like it that really want to listen to your content that really want

listen to your content that really want listen to your content that really want to read your content and the second

to read your content and the second to read your content and the second benefit is you can ultimately Outsource

benefit is you can ultimately Outsource benefit is you can ultimately Outsource it to you know a VA or anyone like you

it to you know a VA or anyone like you it to you know a VA or anyone like you can give access to your Facebook page uh

can give access to your Facebook page uh can give access to your Facebook page uh when someone you know when you when you

when someone you know when you when you when someone you know when you when you are personal brand is growing or you

are personal brand is growing or you are personal brand is growing or you just want someone else to manage it

just want someone else to manage it just want someone else to manage it since I'm big fan of you know Sops and

since I'm big fan of you know Sops and since I'm big fan of you know Sops and workflows and you know stuff like that

workflows and you know stuff like that workflows and you know stuff like that so that's why I'm recommending that so

so that's why I'm recommending that so so that's why I'm recommending that so that's really yeah yeah going back to uh

that's really yeah yeah going back to uh that's really yeah yeah going back to uh branding and um I'm mixing up the words

branding and um I'm mixing up the words branding and um I'm mixing up the words it's like you know just having your own

it's like you know just having your own it's like you know just having your own authority it's I I understand this to be

authority it's I I understand this to be authority it's I I understand this to be true in the sense that you know when I

true in the sense that you know when I true in the sense that you know when I started going harder on LinkedIn uh the

started going harder on LinkedIn uh the started going harder on LinkedIn uh the past two years I did LinkedIn and I did

past two years I did LinkedIn and I did past two years I did LinkedIn and I did my company stuff and I follow a lot of

my company stuff and I follow a lot of my company stuff and I follow a lot of uh LinkedIn influencers that basically

uh LinkedIn influencers that basically uh LinkedIn influencers that basically educate people on how to actually grow

educate people on how to actually grow educate people on how to actually grow your LinkedIn profile and the the the

your LinkedIn profile and the the the your LinkedIn profile and the the the theme was common it was basically like

theme was common it was basically like theme was common it was basically like focus on your personal brand than the

focus on your personal brand than the focus on your personal brand than the company because like what you said I

company because like what you said I company because like what you said I think is a realization of their

think is a realization of their think is a realization of their recommendation which is you know

recommendation which is you know recommendation which is you know subconsciously if I post something on my

subconsciously if I post something on my subconsciously if I post something on my company profile it's going to get company profile it's going to get company profile it's going to get minimal likes and I already know the

minimal likes and I already know the minimal likes and I already know the engagement is weak and it's like you

engagement is weak and it's like you engagement is weak and it's like you said people are like it's weird it's

said people are like it's weird it's said people are like it's weird it's like they'd rather buy from me as the

like they'd rather buy from me as the like they'd rather buy from me as the person than from the companying them and

person than from the companying them and person than from the companying them and you know I just think there's some power you know I just think there's some power you know I just think there's some power in that like in trying to relay that to

in that like in trying to relay that to in that like in trying to relay that to Authority because it relate not to

Authority because it relate not to Authority because it relate not to authority to Affiliates because

authority to Affiliates because authority to Affiliates because Affiliates are trying to like I've seen

Affiliates are trying to like I've seen Affiliates are trying to like I've seen a lot of them do sites without any

a lot of them do sites without any a lot of them do sites without any Authority there's no person behind it

Authority there's no person behind it Authority there's no person behind it when they're writing content they're not when they're writing content they're not when they're writing content they're not saying here's the author and this is why

saying here's the author and this is why saying here's the author and this is why the author is is um experienc in that

the author is is um experienc in that the author is is um experienc in that Nation I'm thinking you're on something

Nation I'm thinking you're on something Nation I'm thinking you're on something where people that own businesses need to

where people that own businesses need to where people that own businesses need to build up their own personal brand build up their own personal brand build up their own personal brand because it's like your brand is your

because it's like your brand is your because it's like your brand is your following and people they're ready to

following and people they're ready to following and people they're ready to buy from you at any given

buy from you at any given buy from you at any given moment and the second thing with is is

moment and the second thing with is is moment and the second thing with is is with our subconscious mind as well and

with our subconscious mind as well and with our subconscious mind as well and I'm not a psychology expert so I'm sorry

I'm not a psychology expert so I'm sorry I'm not a psychology expert so I'm sorry if if any device is wrong but again

if if any device is wrong but again if if any device is wrong but again listen to me so uh the point is when you

listen to me so uh the point is when you listen to me so uh the point is when you are creating any post or any content

are creating any post or any content are creating any post or any content with your for your uh company page

with your for your uh company page with your for your uh company page whether it's on LinkedIn YouTube

whether it's on LinkedIn YouTube whether it's on LinkedIn YouTube anywhere right so uh like somewhere in

anywhere right so uh like somewhere in anywhere right so uh like somewhere in your mind is just like I should create

your mind is just like I should create your mind is just like I should create something that can help me sell my

something that can help me sell my something that can help me sell my product sell my services sell my

product sell my services sell my product sell my services sell my Consulting and stuff like that you are

Consulting and stuff like that you are Consulting and stuff like that you are not really you know thinking about

not really you know thinking about not really you know thinking about people there you are really thinking

people there you are really thinking people there you are really thinking about your own company here like what

about your own company here like what about your own company here like what the formula that I follow is just you

the formula that I follow is just you the formula that I follow is just you know uh

know uh know uh just like four valuable posts or you

just like four valuable posts or you just like four valuable posts or you know any post that that that are not

know any post that that that are not know any post that that that are not about selling and in the fifth sport I

about selling and in the fifth sport I about selling and in the fifth sport I can just you know add a little bit of

can just you know add a little bit of can just you know add a little bit of touch hey I sell this stuff so if you if

touch hey I sell this stuff so if you if touch hey I sell this stuff so if you if you want to buy it go ahead and buy from

you want to buy it go ahead and buy from you want to buy it go ahead and buy from this link that's it right but when you

this link that's it right but when you this link that's it right but when you are creating the post or the content for

are creating the post or the content for are creating the post or the content for your LinkedIn for your YouTube stuff at

your LinkedIn for your YouTube stuff at your LinkedIn for your YouTube stuff at your company page you are really into

your company page you are really into your company page you are really into the stuff like how I can introduce my

the stuff like how I can introduce my the stuff like how I can introduce my product how I can introduce my services

product how I can introduce my services product how I can introduce my services or anything like that and people don't

or anything like that and people don't or anything like that and people don't really love it since you are not really

really love it since you are not really really love it since you are not really thinking about them and pro creating the

thinking about them and pro creating the thinking about them and pro creating the uh you know content about them you are

uh you know content about them you are uh you know content about them you are really creating it for yourself and it

really creating it for yourself and it really creating it for yourself and it doesn't help in my opinion so uh for

doesn't help in my opinion so uh for doesn't help in my opinion so uh for example I have a really good example

example I have a really good example example I have a really good example here Julian Goldie uh started another

here Julian Goldie uh started another here Julian Goldie uh started another you know business for just focusing on

you know business for just focusing on you know business for just focusing on the agency H Earth and he created a new

the agency H Earth and he created a new the agency H Earth and he created a new YouTube channel for that and he named it

YouTube channel for that and he named it YouTube channel for that and he named it Julian G agency he didn't name it like

Julian G agency he didn't name it like Julian G agency he didn't name it like uh agency Mastermind stuff agency

uh agency Mastermind stuff agency uh agency Mastermind stuff agency scalers or anything like that he named

scalers or anything like that he named scalers or anything like that he named it Julian Goldie agency right so uh

it Julian Goldie agency right so uh it Julian Goldie agency right so uh people are going to recognize that okay

people are going to recognize that okay people are going to recognize that okay this is the agency business of Julian

this is the agency business of Julian this is the agency business of Julian Goldie and we know Julian Goldie as well

Goldie and we know Julian Goldie as well Goldie and we know Julian Goldie as well and here is the business and if if they

and here is the business and if if they and here is the business and if if they want to buy it they they can just go

want to buy it they they can just go want to buy it they they can just go ahead and you know talk to Julian Goldie

ahead and you know talk to Julian Goldie ahead and you know talk to Julian Goldie or book a call or anything like that

or book a call or anything like that or book a call or anything like that that's really the difference here yeah

that's really the difference here yeah that's really the difference here yeah that's good branding so I'm going to

that's good branding so I'm going to that's good branding so I'm going to take a step back again cuz I think what

take a step back again cuz I think what take a step back again cuz I think what you said actually might have a total

you said actually might have a total you said actually might have a total application in affiliate marketing and

application in affiliate marketing and application in affiliate marketing and you said creating content that's not

you said creating content that's not you said creating content that's not always selling so it's like you you do a

always selling so it's like you you do a always selling so it's like you you do a post and it's not selling you do another

post and it's not selling you do another post and it's not selling you do another post and you're just giving value and

post and you're just giving value and post and you're just giving value and then on the fourth or fifth one you say

then on the fourth or fifth one you say then on the fourth or fifth one you say okay I'm gonna by the way I sell this

okay I'm gonna by the way I sell this okay I'm gonna by the way I sell this I'm wondering if this this needs to

I'm wondering if this this needs to I'm wondering if this this needs to apply to the the old school content not

apply to the the old school content not apply to the the old school content not video not social but blog posts where

video not social but blog posts where video not social but blog posts where it's like okay how can I have a blog it's like okay how can I have a blog it's like okay how can I have a blog post and I think a lot of affiliate

post and I think a lot of affiliate post and I think a lot of affiliate sites especially ones that are probably

sites especially ones that are probably sites especially ones that are probably getting destroyed right now you know

getting destroyed right now you know getting destroyed right now you know where you go to a site and it just got where you go to a site and it just got where you go to a site and it just got too many ads it's like you're you're

too many ads it's like you're you're too many ads it's like you're you're selling me too hard and I'm getting

selling me too hard and I'm getting selling me too hard and I'm getting tired of it I'm thinking that maybe this

tired of it I'm thinking that maybe this tired of it I'm thinking that maybe this needs to be applied where rather than

needs to be applied where rather than needs to be applied where rather than having calls to action to take you

having calls to action to take you having calls to action to take you outside it's kind of like look if you

outside it's kind of like look if you outside it's kind of like look if you want to learn more go so would you say

want to learn more go so would you say want to learn more go so would you say that this is going to be the new that this is going to be the new that this is going to be the new affiliate marketing moving

affiliate marketing moving affiliate marketing moving forward um like honestly speaking with

forward um like honestly speaking with forward um like honestly speaking with the stuff that you just said it's it's

the stuff that you just said it's it's the stuff that you just said it's it's more of like the framework that says

more of like the framework that says more of like the framework that says give give give give and then ask so

give give give give and then ask so give give give give and then ask so that's really a frame and to answer your

that's really a frame and to answer your that's really a frame and to answer your question uh when I used to create uh

question uh when I used to create uh question uh when I used to create uh Amazon affiliate website I you know did

Amazon affiliate website I you know did Amazon affiliate website I you know did a lot of them in my career so uh what my

a lot of them in my career so uh what my a lot of them in my career so uh what my strategy was is like most of Affiliates

strategy was is like most of Affiliates strategy was is like most of Affiliates what they do is just you know go ahead

what they do is just you know go ahead what they do is just you know go ahead and you know push out let's say 40 50%

and you know push out let's say 40 50% and you know push out let's say 40 50% commercial content like the best type

commercial content like the best type commercial content like the best type versus or product reviews and stuff like

versus or product reviews and stuff like versus or product reviews and stuff like that my strategy strategy was to just

that my strategy strategy was to just that my strategy strategy was to just pick 20 golden you know commercial

pick 20 golden you know commercial pick 20 golden you know commercial topics that I really want to rank right

topics that I really want to rank right topics that I really want to rank right so they are having really good volume

so they are having really good volume so they are having really good volume and if if I can rank those you know

and if if I can rank those you know and if if I can rank those you know keywords on first three positions I can

keywords on first three positions I can keywords on first three positions I can really make good money I don't go after

really make good money I don't go after really make good money I don't go after like 40 50 post like out of 100 post I'm

like 40 50 post like out of 100 post I'm like 40 50 post like out of 100 post I'm you know uh having the assumtion and

you know uh having the assumtion and you know uh having the assumtion and then I what I did was just create 80

then I what I did was just create 80 then I what I did was just create 80 posts around those 20 articles like the

posts around those 20 articles like the posts around those 20 articles like the 80 informational ones like it could be

80 informational ones like it could be 80 informational ones like it could be guiding about those products it could be

guiding about those products it could be guiding about those products it could be guiding about the whole article or if

guiding about the whole article or if guiding about the whole article or if they have any problem like the settings

they have any problem like the settings they have any problem like the settings or if they are facing any issue with

or if they are facing any issue with or if they are facing any issue with that so we really create informational

that so we really create informational that so we really create informational content around those 20 topic it really

content around those 20 topic it really content around those 20 topic it really helps with internal linking it really

helps with internal linking it really helps with internal linking it really helps with you know uh building the

helps with you know uh building the helps with you know uh building the authority just on those topics that's it

authority just on those topics that's it authority just on those topics that's it so it's not really you know difficult in

so it's not really you know difficult in so it's not really you know difficult in my opinion and U it it's just 20 topics

my opinion and U it it's just 20 topics my opinion and U it it's just 20 topics in the end and you are not a typical

in the end and you are not a typical in the end and you are not a typical affiliate website you are really you

affiliate website you are really you affiliate website you are really you know uh presenting as a business right

know uh presenting as a business right know uh presenting as a business right so and one thing that was another game

so and one thing that was another game so and one thing that was another game changer is really adding uh Subs

changer is really adding uh Subs changer is really adding uh Subs CTA for my newsletter right so it was in

CTA for my newsletter right so it was in CTA for my newsletter right so it was in the header of the website so it's like

the header of the website so it's like the header of the website so it's like just asking them like hey we have got

just asking them like hey we have got just asking them like hey we have got XYZ uh you know stuff for free at all

XYZ uh you know stuff for free at all XYZ uh you know stuff for free at all the only currency that you are going to the only currency that you are going to the only currency that you are going to give us is just your email that's it and

give us is just your email that's it and give us is just your email that's it and that was really something valuable for

that was really something valuable for that was really something valuable for the audience and I'm going to give you

the audience and I'm going to give you the audience and I'm going to give you an example of valuable stuff so for

an example of valuable stuff so for an example of valuable stuff so for example photographers need uh alerts or

example photographers need uh alerts or example photographers need uh alerts or the editing uh you know presets for

the editing uh you know presets for the editing uh you know presets for their editing so if you're going to give

their editing so if you're going to give their editing so if you're going to give them for free if you have got an

them for free if you have got an them for free if you have got an affiliate website in photography n

affiliate website in photography n affiliate website in photography n they're going to really valuate they are

they're going to really valuate they are they're going to really valuate they are really going to download those presets

really going to download those presets really going to download those presets so something like that not you know

so something like that not you know so something like that not you know checklist or templates everyone hates it

checklist or templates everyone hates it checklist or templates everyone hates it so just understand that okay now I don't

so just understand that okay now I don't so just understand that okay now I don't even know if we're going to get to any even know if we're going to get to any even know if we're going to get to any of our questions because we're going of our questions because we're going of our questions because we're going down really interesting rabbit holes

down really interesting rabbit holes down really interesting rabbit holes what would you say like if it's a good

what would you say like if it's a good what would you say like if it's a good idea to capture someone's email because

idea to capture someone's email because idea to capture someone's email because you want to own your own audience what

you want to own your own audience what you want to own your own audience what do you think about first party data do you think about first party data do you think about first party data where you C a bit more and I kind of got

where you C a bit more and I kind of got where you C a bit more and I kind of got like a question that like I'm just like a question that like I'm just like a question that like I'm just throwing it your way because I what I'm

throwing it your way because I what I'm throwing it your way because I what I'm hearing in the B2B space is that the old

hearing in the B2B space is that the old hearing in the B2B space is that the old school way of creating a PDF that you

school way of creating a PDF that you school way of creating a PDF that you download and capturing a lead form is

download and capturing a lead form is download and capturing a lead form is not good because you want to you want to

not good because you want to you want to not good because you want to you want to be very intentional now what would you

be very intentional now what would you be very intentional now what would you say about going how do you how do you

say about going how do you how do you say about going how do you how do you take a step forward where you're take a step forward where you're take a step forward where you're capturing maybe more than just the email

capturing maybe more than just the email capturing maybe more than just the email um so you have like first-party data

um so you have like first-party data um so you have like first-party data that you can say well I I'm pretty sure

that you can say well I I'm pretty sure that you can say well I I'm pretty sure I know the answer is like you got to I know the answer is like you got to I know the answer is like you got to really earn it it can't can't be just really earn it it can't can't be just really earn it it can't can't be just another cookie cutter PDF download that

another cookie cutter PDF download that another cookie cutter PDF download that you know people are just going to give you know people are just going to give you know people are just going to give you fake information and say yeah just

you fake information and say yeah just you fake information and say yeah just give me the give me the give me the download so uh I have a really really

download so uh I have a really really download so uh I have a really really good solution and I implemented it

good solution and I implemented it good solution and I implemented it myself as well is just getting them into

myself as well is just getting them into myself as well is just getting them into the funnel for like five days or let's

the funnel for like five days or let's the funnel for like five days or let's say a week like it could be a mini

say a week like it could be a mini say a week like it could be a mini course for example uh I'm going to

course for example uh I'm going to course for example uh I'm going to following the photography example you're

following the photography example you're following the photography example you're not going to give them those presets

not going to give them those presets not going to give them those presets right away so that they can you know right away so that they can you know right away so that they can you know enter their fake information and

enter their fake information and enter their fake information and download it so so what you're going to

download it so so what you're going to download it so so what you're going to do is create a mini 5-day course right

do is create a mini 5-day course right do is create a mini 5-day course right and you're going to ask them like you

and you're going to ask them like you and you're going to ask them like you will email them every single day so now

will email them every single day so now will email them every single day so now they really have to give you uh their

they really have to give you uh their they really have to give you uh their you know email or personal email right

you know email or personal email right you know email or personal email right so could be anything other than pre-ets

so could be anything other than pre-ets so could be anything other than pre-ets or anything like that but that was just or anything like that but that was just or anything like that but that was just an example I'm asking like I'm telling

an example I'm asking like I'm telling an example I'm asking like I'm telling you to have a really valuable thing you

you to have a really valuable thing you you to have a really valuable thing you can just go ahead and ask JG as well you

can just go ahead and ask JG as well you can just go ahead and ask JG as well you don't have to come up with new unique

don't have to come up with new unique don't have to come up with new unique ideas just ask your audience said ask

ideas just ask your audience said ask ideas just ask your audience said ask you know uh sorry explain your audience

you know uh sorry explain your audience you know uh sorry explain your audience said explain everything to chgb and ask

said explain everything to chgb and ask said explain everything to chgb and ask about the ideas that you can promote

about the ideas that you can promote about the ideas that you can promote your audience that's it that's not

your audience that's it that's not your audience that's it that's not really difficult thing in my opinion so

really difficult thing in my opinion so really difficult thing in my opinion so it's really a five-day mini course and

it's really a five-day mini course and it's really a five-day mini course and you are really having conversation with

you are really having conversation with you are really having conversation with them and in every single email you are

them and in every single email you are them and in every single email you are going you're asking them hey please

going you're asking them hey please going you're asking them hey please reply to this email if you have any

reply to this email if you have any reply to this email if you have any questions or anything like that so they

questions or anything like that so they questions or anything like that so they are really going to start engaging with

are really going to start engaging with are really going to start engaging with you and what happens at the end of the

you and what happens at the end of the you and what happens at the end of the day now they're engaging with you now

day now they're engaging with you now day now they're engaging with you now the you have their personal emails or at

the you have their personal emails or at the you have their personal emails or at least their corporate emails like Omar

least their corporate emails like Omar least their corporate emails like Omar grth winner.com or anything like that

grth winner.com or anything like that grth winner.com or anything like that so at the end of the day when you are

so at the end of the day when you are so at the end of the day when you are you know putting out your sales pause to

you know putting out your sales pause to you know putting out your sales pause to earn money from them they are really

earn money from them they are really earn money from them they are really going to you know buy every out

going to you know buy every out going to you know buy every out there whatever you are promoting so

there whatever you are promoting so there whatever you are promoting so definitely the take wow I wasn't

definitely the take wow I wasn't definitely the take wow I wasn't expecting that as an answer but I I had

expecting that as an answer but I I had expecting that as an answer but I I had the feeling that you would have a good the feeling that you would have a good the feeling that you would have a good answer and this was yeah I'm I put a

answer and this was yeah I'm I put a answer and this was yeah I'm I put a note here to come back and I'm going to

note here to come back and I'm going to note here to come back and I'm going to listen to this and see how I can listen to this and see how I can listen to this and see how I can integrate that into what we're doing

integrate that into what we're doing integrate that into what we're doing sure sure so I'm going to get back to

sure sure so I'm going to get back to sure sure so I'm going to get back to some of the actual questions I wrote and

some of the actual questions I wrote and some of the actual questions I wrote and so one of them is like how would you

so one of them is like how would you so one of them is like how would you rank or do SEO for let's say

rank or do SEO for let's say rank or do SEO for let's say YouTube uhuh so uh with the YouTube

YouTube uhuh so uh with the YouTube YouTube uhuh so uh with the YouTube stuff it's really the power of your

stuff it's really the power of your stuff it's really the power of your topic that you select so one mistake

topic that you select so one mistake topic that you select so one mistake that I did uh earlier and I'm right now

that I did uh earlier and I'm right now that I did uh earlier and I'm right now I'm early you know in early stages of my

I'm early you know in early stages of my I'm early you know in early stages of my YouTube I'm not the influencer out there

YouTube I'm not the influencer out there YouTube I'm not the influencer out there so I'm just getting started and stuff

so I'm just getting started and stuff so I'm just getting started and stuff like that I've got like 1,000 or

like that I've got like 1,000 or like that I've got like 1,000 or something subscribers but again uh

something subscribers but again uh something subscribers but again uh listen to me it's really stuff for

listen to me it's really stuff for listen to me it's really stuff for example the really power is in the tit

example the really power is in the tit example the really power is in the tit sorry in the topic that you select and

sorry in the topic that you select and sorry in the topic that you select and why I'm saying that is uh if you see my

why I'm saying that is uh if you see my why I'm saying that is uh if you see my uh you know early videos like they're

uh you know early videos like they're uh you know early videos like they're really uh like seven months old I was

really uh like seven months old I was really uh like seven months old I was treating the content that I like like

treating the content that I like like treating the content that I like like right so those were not really the

right so those were not really the right so those were not really the keyword focused or topic Focus what

keyword focused or topic Focus what keyword focused or topic Focus what people are searching but if you check

people are searching but if you check people are searching but if you check out my most view uh video right now it's

out my most view uh video right now it's out my most view uh video right now it's really around the keyword like how to do

really around the keyword like how to do really around the keyword like how to do website audit right so my manager

website audit right so my manager website audit right so my manager searched that and you know he was like

searched that and you know he was like searched that and you know he was like Omar you are creating the content that

Omar you are creating the content that Omar you are creating the content that in that is that is of your interest not

in that is that is of your interest not in that is that is of your interest not your audience interest so you you should

your audience interest so you you should your audience interest so you you should really go for the topics that people are

really go for the topics that people are really go for the topics that people are searching for just like you do with your

searching for just like you do with your searching for just like you do with your affiliate websites right so right now

affiliate websites right so right now affiliate websites right so right now you are create you were creating the

you are create you were creating the you are create you were creating the content for your Facebook friends uh

content for your Facebook friends uh content for your Facebook friends uh those who want to listen to you those those who want to listen to you those those who want to listen to you those who want to know your thoughts on like

who want to know your thoughts on like who want to know your thoughts on like for example how you do XYZ but right now

for example how you do XYZ but right now for example how you do XYZ but right now if we are focusing on YouTube we should

if we are focusing on YouTube we should if we are focusing on YouTube we should really you know go after the topics that

really you know go after the topics that really you know go after the topics that people are searching for I will give you people are searching for I will give you people are searching for I will give you an example uh with the chair GPT stuff

an example uh with the chair GPT stuff an example uh with the chair GPT stuff like if you put anything around chair

like if you put anything around chair like if you put anything around chair GPT right now it's going to you know

GPT right now it's going to you know GPT right now it's going to you know explode people are just want to consume

explode people are just want to consume explode people are just want to consume every single thing when it comes to CH

every single thing when it comes to CH every single thing when it comes to CH GPT right so if you going to channel in

GPT right so if you going to channel in GPT right so if you going to channel in marketing space is go ahead and create

marketing space is go ahead and create marketing space is go ahead and create something around CH GPT and how you can

something around CH GPT and how you can something around CH GPT and how you can integrate it and like this is the stuff

integrate it and like this is the stuff integrate it and like this is the stuff that I'm doing currently as well for I'm

that I'm doing currently as well for I'm that I'm doing currently as well for I'm creating a full blond like series on how

creating a full blond like series on how creating a full blond like series on how to create the content that actually

to create the content that actually to create the content that actually ranks uh with with the help of CHT and

ranks uh with with the help of CHT and ranks uh with with the help of CHT and it's like it takes around one and a half

it's like it takes around one and a half it's like it takes around one and a half hour to create the highly optimized

hour to create the highly optimized hour to create the highly optimized article and it's just through chat GPT

article and it's just through chat GPT article and it's just through chat GPT so and it's it's backed by case studies

so and it's it's backed by case studies so and it's it's backed by case studies and uh results so nothing like uh okay

and uh results so nothing like uh okay and uh results so nothing like uh okay the cookie criteria apprach Ro or the cookie criteria apprach Ro or the cookie criteria apprach Ro or anything like that so got it yeah now

anything like that so got it yeah now anything like that so got it yeah now the next question would be let's ask the

the next question would be let's ask the the next question would be let's ask the same question but how would you rank a a

same question but how would you rank a a same question but how would you rank a a book whether it's on Amazon or maybe

book whether it's on Amazon or maybe book whether it's on Amazon or maybe it's just a book that can go on multiple

it's just a book that can go on multiple it's just a book that can go on multiple um you know book

um you know book um you know book platforms um honestly speaking I haven't

platforms um honestly speaking I haven't platforms um honestly speaking I haven't worked uh with any client in the you

worked uh with any client in the you worked uh with any client in the you know who is the author uh but I have

know who is the author uh but I have know who is the author uh but I have friends uh who are working in those

friends uh who are working in those friends uh who are working in those niches uh like with really big

niches uh like with really big niches uh like with really big influencers so what they do is basically

influencers so what they do is basically influencers so what they do is basically they talk about the subject of the book

they talk about the subject of the book they talk about the subject of the book so the book is really here is the offer

so the book is really here is the offer so the book is really here is the offer that they want to sell on the website

that they want to sell on the website that they want to sell on the website right so for example if we have a book

right so for example if we have a book right so for example if we have a book uh with uh that's around psychology

uh with uh that's around psychology uh with uh that's around psychology that's around maybe like any any other

that's around maybe like any any other that's around maybe like any any other subject out there I'm talking about subject out there I'm talking about subject out there I'm talking about subject not the topic here right so you

subject not the topic here right so you subject not the topic here right so you are really targeting that subject and in

are really targeting that subject and in are really targeting that subject and in under that subject you are really under that subject you are really under that subject you are really targeting those topics and subtopics so

targeting those topics and subtopics so targeting those topics and subtopics so when the audience comes in now with the

when the audience comes in now with the when the audience comes in now with the SEO you you really have the defined

SEO you you really have the defined SEO you you really have the defined audience since you're going to get the

audience since you're going to get the audience since you're going to get the audience that the keywords that you're

audience that the keywords that you're audience that the keywords that you're targeting right so once you have the

targeting right so once you have the targeting right so once you have the audience on your website you can sell

audience on your website you can sell audience on your website you can sell that book to them so you can't really

that book to them so you can't really that book to them so you can't really unless you have the keyword in the book

unless you have the keyword in the book unless you have the keyword in the book name so you can't really rank for the

name so you can't really rank for the name so you can't really rank for the book name like I have a friend uh Jason

book name like I have a friend uh Jason book name like I have a friend uh Jason Hennessy so he has a good he has got a

Hennessy so he has a good he has got a Hennessy so he has a good he has got a law from SEO uh that one as well like

law from SEO uh that one as well like law from SEO uh that one as well like honest SEO there is

honest SEO there is honest SEO there is so like uh he like they do a lot of like

so like uh he like they do a lot of like so like uh he like they do a lot of like uh SEO for and digital marketing for law

uh SEO for and digital marketing for law uh SEO for and digital marketing for law Firs stuff like that so he wrote a book

Firs stuff like that so he wrote a book Firs stuff like that so he wrote a book and named it law fir SEO so brilant he

and named it law fir SEO so brilant he and named it law fir SEO so brilant he ranked it like I guess fifth position

ranked it like I guess fifth position ranked it like I guess fifth position I'm not sure about it but uh on fifth

I'm not sure about it but uh on fifth I'm not sure about it but uh on fifth position for for law from SEO and that

position for for law from SEO and that position for for law from SEO and that was parasite SEO before it really took

was parasite SEO before it really took was parasite SEO before it really took off so he published a book on Amazon and

off so he published a book on Amazon and off so he published a book on Amazon and rank that keyword for Amazon so that's a

rank that keyword for Amazon so that's a rank that keyword for Amazon so that's a really brilliant strategy in my opinion

really brilliant strategy in my opinion really brilliant strategy in my opinion yeah well you can't do it with the

yeah well you can't do it with the yeah well you can't do it with the psychology or any other subject but uh

psychology or any other subject but uh psychology or any other subject but uh you know it's just the exception yeah

you know it's just the exception yeah you know it's just the exception yeah yeah but it goes without saying I mean

yeah but it goes without saying I mean yeah but it goes without saying I mean the brilliant idea about what Jason did

the brilliant idea about what Jason did the brilliant idea about what Jason did there was that he took a keyword and

there was that he took a keyword and there was that he took a keyword and he's like I can rank like almost not one

he's like I can rank like almost not one he's like I can rank like almost not one through 10 but he's going to have a

through 10 but he's going to have a through 10 but he's going to have a chance to to get like one three four

chance to to get like one three four chance to to get like one three four four five8 like just by creating a topic

four five8 like just by creating a topic four five8 like just by creating a topic that I know it's super neat but I think

that I know it's super neat but I think that I know it's super neat but I think a book is what stands out and then you

a book is what stands out and then you a book is what stands out and then you know someone that writes an article

know someone that writes an article know someone that writes an article about a book that's in some sort of

about a book that's in some sort of about a book that's in some sort of authorative um you know article or you

authorative um you know article or you authorative um you know article or you know news feed the these things are

know news feed the these things are know news feed the these things are going to rank in my opinion yeah at the

going to rank in my opinion yeah at the going to rank in my opinion yeah at the end of the day in my opinion it's really

end of the day in my opinion it's really end of the day in my opinion it's really the thing to becoming an authority in

the thing to becoming an authority in the thing to becoming an authority in your audience mind like we are always

your audience mind like we are always your audience mind like we are always always talking how to become an

always talking how to become an always talking how to become an authority on Google like I sell a lot of

authority on Google like I sell a lot of authority on Google like I sell a lot of links right yeah so the point is like we

links right yeah so the point is like we links right yeah so the point is like we are always talking about like how to

are always talking about like how to are always talking about like how to become an authority on Google increase

become an authority on Google increase become an authority on Google increase the Dr blah blah blah but again if you

the Dr blah blah blah but again if you the Dr blah blah blah but again if you can't become the authority in your

can't become the authority in your can't become the authority in your audience mind you're not going to build

audience mind you're not going to build audience mind you're not going to build the business in the longer run that

the business in the longer run that the business in the longer run that that's just my opinion right so uh with

that's just my opinion right so uh with that's just my opinion right so uh with the law form for example you have that

the law form for example you have that the law form for example you have that book as a law ticket offer let's say you

book as a law ticket offer let's say you book as a law ticket offer let's say you are selling it for 35 bucks or something

are selling it for 35 bucks or something are selling it for 35 bucks or something and now you have really audience that

and now you have really audience that and now you have really audience that did the transaction with you and you can

did the transaction with you and you can did the transaction with you and you can sell whatever you want for example you

sell whatever you want for example you sell whatever you want for example you have got a mental health course or you

have got a mental health course or you have got a mental health course or you have got a mental health coach so uh

have got a mental health coach so uh have got a mental health coach so uh you're going to pass that leads to that

you're going to pass that leads to that you're going to pass that leads to that mental health coach okay hey uh you

mental health coach okay hey uh you mental health coach okay hey uh you bought that book and if you need any

bought that book and if you need any bought that book and if you need any help with I'm talking about the

help with I'm talking about the help with I'm talking about the psychology book by the way yes yeah so

psychology book by the way yes yeah so psychology book by the way yes yeah so if you if you need any help with like uh

if you if you need any help with like uh if you if you need any help with like uh if you're facing any mental health if you're facing any mental health if you're facing any mental health issues or stuff like that and we can

issues or stuff like that and we can issues or stuff like that and we can really help you with it and you know

really help you with it and you know really help you with it and you know those are really uh High ticket leads uh

those are really uh High ticket leads uh those are really uh High ticket leads uh these are not like uh 500 bucks or 200

these are not like uh 500 bucks or 200 these are not like uh 500 bucks or 200 bucks uh kind of stuff so you can really

bucks uh kind of stuff so you can really bucks uh kind of stuff so you can really sell that stuff for very high uh very

sell that stuff for very high uh very sell that stuff for very high uh very high price and with the law for SEO it's

high price and with the law for SEO it's high price and with the law for SEO it's really the case so for example Jason

really the case so for example Jason really the case so for example Jason didn't do that you can write the

didn't do that you can write the didn't do that you can write the book you will not sound expert but again

book you will not sound expert but again book you will not sound expert but again I'm just giving an example yes and you

I'm just giving an example yes and you I'm just giving an example yes and you are now passing the leads to Jason now

are now passing the leads to Jason now are now passing the leads to Jason now imagine that like that guy has got a

imagine that like that guy has got a imagine that like that guy has got a really good company like they are doing

really good company like they are doing really good company like they are doing uh you know Millions Revenue so you are

uh you know Millions Revenue so you are uh you know Millions Revenue so you are now passing that leads to Jason if if

now passing that leads to Jason if if now passing that leads to Jason if if that was not Jason's idea at first it

that was not Jason's idea at first it that was not Jason's idea at first it was your idea yeah maybe there's another

was your idea yeah maybe there's another was your idea yeah maybe there's another subtopic about using books for affiliate

subtopic about using books for affiliate subtopic about using books for affiliate marketing but like I said I know you're

marketing but like I said I know you're marketing but like I said I know you're not the book expert but I know you're

not the book expert but I know you're not the book expert but I know you're pretty tuned in when it comes to

pretty tuned in when it comes to pretty tuned in when it comes to audience so I want to basically use my

audience so I want to basically use my audience so I want to basically use my personal example of we we thought about

personal example of we we thought about personal example of we we thought about creating a book on Amazon and we're like

creating a book on Amazon and we're like creating a book on Amazon and we're like okay what are the topics affiliate

okay what are the topics affiliate okay what are the topics affiliate marketing in my opinion is too generic

marketing in my opinion is too generic marketing in my opinion is too generic so there's kind of like well it could be

so there's kind of like well it could be so there's kind of like well it could be specific but if it's too specific it

specific but if it's too specific it specific but if it's too specific it might go too far so then I thought about

might go too far so then I thought about might go too far so then I thought about maybe it could be offers or affiliate

maybe it could be offers or affiliate maybe it could be offers or affiliate program or affiliate program database

program or affiliate program database program or affiliate program database but I think that's maybe too keyword and

but I think that's maybe too keyword and but I think that's maybe too keyword and it's not really insightful and then

it's not really insightful and then it's not really insightful and then there's the secondary part which is me

there's the secondary part which is me there's the secondary part which is me wanting to build my personal brand and

wanting to build my personal brand and wanting to build my personal brand and become uh a trusted source of knowledge

become uh a trusted source of knowledge become uh a trusted source of knowledge in affiliate marketing so knowing that

in affiliate marketing so knowing that in affiliate marketing so knowing that everything's on the table what would you

everything's on the table what would you everything's on the table what would you say that we could consider or what would

say that we could consider or what would say that we could consider or what would you say I should consider for a book

you say I should consider for a book you say I should consider for a book topic or um maybe like some ideas for

topic or um maybe like some ideas for topic or um maybe like some ideas for targeting you know this this

targeting you know this this targeting you know this this industry okay so uh like if I were at

industry okay so uh like if I were at industry okay so uh like if I were at your place what I would do is go ahead

your place what I would do is go ahead your place what I would do is go ahead in this in this in this uh in my opinion for example uh like how

uh in my opinion for example uh like how uh in my opinion for example uh like how you can do affiliate marketing just for

you can do affiliate marketing just for you can do affiliate marketing just for with the e-commerce offers there it but

with the e-commerce offers there it but with the e-commerce offers there it but that's that's one industry for like that

that's that's one industry for like that that's that's one industry for like that that will be wrong example but I gaming

that will be wrong example but I gaming that will be wrong example but I gaming like when you are targeting the industry

like when you are targeting the industry like when you are targeting the industry you're really getting that audience into

you're really getting that audience into you're really getting that audience into your funnel you're not getting the

your funnel you're not getting the your funnel you're not getting the generic uh audience you're really

generic uh audience you're really generic uh audience you're really getting the high quality uh audience in

getting the high quality uh audience in getting the high quality uh audience in your funnel number one and secondly when

your funnel number one and secondly when your funnel number one and secondly when you're going to write the book or write

you're going to write the book or write you're going to write the book or write you know about this topic you will

you know about this topic you will you know about this topic you will really have subtopics for that now you

really have subtopics for that now you really have subtopics for that now you are not generic this strategy or

are not generic this strategy or are not generic this strategy or framework is called hitting the Bulls

framework is called hitting the Bulls framework is called hitting the Bulls Eye so you are not too broad or you are

Eye so you are not too broad or you are Eye so you are not too broad or you are not too narrow but you are really at the

not too narrow but you are really at the not too narrow but you are really at the place like that you want to Target uh to

place like that you want to Target uh to place like that you want to Target uh to get that direction so that's really the

get that direction so that's really the get that direction so that's really the thing like going for the uh Industries

thing like going for the uh Industries thing like going for the uh Industries whether it's for like um uh when we talk

whether it's for like um uh when we talk whether it's for like um uh when we talk about SAS like there are a lot of people

about SAS like there are a lot of people about SAS like there are a lot of people like I don't know a lot of people that

like I don't know a lot of people that like I don't know a lot of people that do you know SAS affiliate marketing uh

do you know SAS affiliate marketing uh do you know SAS affiliate marketing uh you know or e-commerce affl like a lot

you know or e-commerce affl like a lot you know or e-commerce affl like a lot of people has got uh really good

of people has got uh really good of people has got uh really good e-commerce stores I'm not talking about

e-commerce stores I'm not talking about e-commerce stores I'm not talking about SEO stuff but they sell through paid ads

SEO stuff but they sell through paid ads SEO stuff but they sell through paid ads or anything they're always looking for or anything they're always looking for or anything they're always looking for leads like they don't have to pay for

leads like they don't have to pay for leads like they don't have to pay for ads so what you can educate them is how

ads so what you can educate them is how ads so what you can educate them is how you can pitch those uh you know uh

you can pitch those uh you know uh you can pitch those uh you know uh website owners or product owners uh to

website owners or product owners uh to website owners or product owners uh to sell those products for them uh using

sell those products for them uh using sell those products for them uh using affiliate marketing so that's really the

affiliate marketing so that's really the affiliate marketing so that's really the thing yeah makes sense cuz we actually

thing yeah makes sense cuz we actually thing yeah makes sense cuz we actually have categories for SAS affiliate

have categories for SAS affiliate have categories for SAS affiliate programs Su affiliate programs and

programs Su affiliate programs and programs Su affiliate programs and that's it's not just I gaming like

that's it's not just I gaming like that's it's not just I gaming like that's where we started from but I

that's where we started from but I that's where we started from but I actually had that same idea and that's

actually had that same idea and that's actually had that same idea and that's actually what you recommended which was

actually what you recommended which was actually what you recommended which was go go Niche and I thought it might have

go go Niche and I thought it might have go go Niche and I thought it might have been a little cheap or cheesy to do like

been a little cheap or cheesy to do like been a little cheap or cheesy to do like a book so for example here's a keyword I

a book so for example here's a keyword I a book so for example here's a keyword I want to Target Casino affiliate programs

want to Target Casino affiliate programs want to Target Casino affiliate programs it's very competitive um but I figured

it's very competitive um but I figured it's very competitive um but I figured if we did something like a book we'd be

if we did something like a book we'd be if we did something like a book we'd be able to cut through the noise like one

able to cut through the noise like one able to cut through the noise like one of the articles that I'm competing games

of the articles that I'm competing games of the articles that I'm competing games it's two from Matt digity that's not

it's two from Matt digity that's not it's two from Matt digity that's not easy to to uh take and I think we're

easy to to uh take and I think we're easy to to uh take and I think we're close to um you know beating them on one

close to um you know beating them on one close to um you know beating them on one of the rankings so I actually thought

of the rankings so I actually thought of the rankings so I actually thought you know doing the the books could have

you know doing the the books could have you know doing the the books could have been interesting but then we're covering

been interesting but then we're covering been interesting but then we're covering a lot of books because then it's like

a lot of books because then it's like a lot of books because then it's like Casino fors betting Bingo but it could

Casino fors betting Bingo but it could Casino fors betting Bingo but it could be I gaming and then there's like you

be I gaming and then there's like you be I gaming and then there's like you said um there's SEO like SEO as a topic

said um there's SEO like SEO as a topic said um there's SEO like SEO as a topic is uh like it's pretty broad like SEO

is uh like it's pretty broad like SEO is uh like it's pretty broad like SEO affiliate programs their slots because affiliate programs their slots because affiliate programs their slots because there's courses SEO tools um SEO

there's courses SEO tools um SEO there's courses SEO tools um SEO agencies like a lot of them have

agencies like a lot of them have agencies like a lot of them have affiliate programs so I think like we

affiliate programs so I think like we affiliate programs so I think like we really have to count

really have to count really have to count the intent behind you know searching for

the intent behind you know searching for the intent behind you know searching for that uh since if I'm searching for let's

that uh since if I'm searching for let's that uh since if I'm searching for let's say sufate programs I'm not really

say sufate programs I'm not really say sufate programs I'm not really looking for book right to read a book

looking for book right to read a book looking for book right to read a book but if I'm searching for like SS

but if I'm searching for like SS but if I'm searching for like SS affiliate marketing or you know SS

affiliate marketing or you know SS affiliate marketing or you know SS affiliate offers or anything like that

affiliate offers or anything like that affiliate offers or anything like that I'm really you know seeking something in

I'm really you know seeking something in I'm really you know seeking something in the compile form that someone has done

the compile form that someone has done the compile form that someone has done the work for me and I just really just

the work for me and I just really just the work for me and I just really just go ahead and buy it or you know just

go ahead and buy it or you know just go ahead and buy it or you know just read it it it can be a blog post but I'm

read it it it can be a blog post but I'm read it it it can be a blog post but I'm looking for a compiled information or

looking for a compiled information or looking for a compiled information or compiled knowledge there so when you are

compiled knowledge there so when you are compiled knowledge there so when you are uh you know when you talk about the

uh you know when you talk about the uh you know when you talk about the knitting down for the book in my opinion

knitting down for the book in my opinion knitting down for the book in my opinion it should really be like does it sound

it should really be like does it sound it should really be like does it sound like a book or not or is it just a

like a book or not or is it just a like a book or not or is it just a keyword that is expecting so intent is

keyword that is expecting so intent is keyword that is expecting so intent is mainly the thing here uh in my opinion

mainly the thing here uh in my opinion mainly the thing here uh in my opinion so I agree I think if we did like sass

so I agree I think if we did like sass so I agree I think if we did like sass affiliate programs as a book it'd be

affiliate programs as a book it'd be affiliate programs as a book it'd be like uh you just it's it's sounds like

like uh you just it's it's sounds like like uh you just it's it's sounds like sales I think the people I think the

sales I think the people I think the sales I think the people I think the people that would click through it would people that would click through it would people that would click through it would be people be I want to get in this book

be people be I want to get in this book be people be I want to get in this book you know which is uh not very helpful so

you know which is uh not very helpful so you know which is uh not very helpful so I went through your one of your LinkedIn

I went through your one of your LinkedIn I went through your one of your LinkedIn posts and I found something that like

posts and I found something that like posts and I found something that like again it caught my eye distracted the again it caught my eye distracted the again it caught my eye distracted the hell out of me it was with Google search

hell out of me it was with Google search hell out of me it was with Google search console and it was about I think um

console and it was about I think um console and it was about I think um finding pages that don't have a lot of

finding pages that don't have a lot of finding pages that don't have a lot of internal links and it was super simple

internal links and it was super simple internal links and it was super simple and I was like first time I've ever done

and I was like first time I've ever done and I was like first time I've ever done this what are other like powerful things

this what are other like powerful things this what are other like powerful things that you can do with search console

that you can do with search console that you can do with search console because what I've heard from a lot of because what I've heard from a lot of because what I've heard from a lot of seos is that search console can be like

seos is that search console can be like seos is that search console can be like the only tool you can live with and it's

the only tool you can live with and it's the only tool you can live with and it's very powerful so what are some tips and

very powerful so what are some tips and very powerful so what are some tips and you know I don't I don't know why people

you know I don't I don't know why people you know I don't I don't know why people are overlooking search console yeah so

are overlooking search console yeah so are overlooking search console yeah so uh search console is really really a

uh search console is really really a uh search console is really really a gold M I can't really stress on that

gold M I can't really stress on that gold M I can't really stress on that when it comes to data right so when you

when it comes to data right so when you when it comes to data right so when you are making any decision taking any

are making any decision taking any are making any decision taking any decision with your business with your

decision with your business with your decision with your business with your website or anything like that it must be

website or anything like that it must be website or anything like that it must be based on data not assumptions so uh

based on data not assumptions so uh based on data not assumptions so uh Google uh search console has all of the

Google uh search console has all of the Google uh search console has all of the data that you need people are asking

data that you need people are asking data that you need people are asking like uh hey can you recommend like free

like uh hey can you recommend like free like uh hey can you recommend like free SEO tools or anything like that I'm like

SEO tools or anything like that I'm like SEO tools or anything like that I'm like dude have you really explored GSC yet so

dude have you really explored GSC yet so dude have you really explored GSC yet so uh with with the you know uh stuff that

uh with with the you know uh stuff that uh with with the you know uh stuff that you're asking for GSC in my opinion ion

you're asking for GSC in my opinion ion you're asking for GSC in my opinion ion uh going with like learning rics a

uh going with like learning rics a uh going with like learning rics a little bit and playing with that can be

little bit and playing with that can be little bit and playing with that can be really really helpful to find the

really really helpful to find the really really helpful to find the untapped opportunities within your

untapped opportunities within your untapped opportunities within your search console like for example uh you

search console like for example uh you search console like for example uh you can see uh what you know what people are

can see uh what you know what people are can see uh what you know what people are searching about your brand uh in which

searching about your brand uh in which searching about your brand uh in which keywords your brand is mentioned like

keywords your brand is mentioned like keywords your brand is mentioned like what are some of the uh W key uh W

what are some of the uh W key uh W what are some of the uh W key uh W keywords that you target that brought in

keywords that you target that brought in keywords that you target that brought in like let's say most Impressions or

like let's say most Impressions or like let's say most Impressions or clicks or something like that and you

clicks or something like that and you clicks or something like that and you can play with the filters of clicks and

can play with the filters of clicks and can play with the filters of clicks and impressions well and you know so on and

impressions well and you know so on and impressions well and you know so on and so forth and I'm just talking about one

so forth and I'm just talking about one so forth and I'm just talking about one filter here uh that is that displays uh

filter here uh that is that displays uh filter here uh that is that displays uh you know besides the last 20 days 28

you know besides the last 20 days 28 you know besides the last 20 days 28 days report so just if you can just

days report so just if you can just days report so just if you can just learn a little bit of Rex you can do

learn a little bit of Rex you can do learn a little bit of Rex you can do wonders with the data for the keywords

wonders with the data for the keywords wonders with the data for the keywords here so yeah I'm G to spend some time

here so yeah I'm G to spend some time here so yeah I'm G to spend some time learning it because I've seen it over

learning it because I've seen it over learning it because I've seen it over and over again it's not difficult and

and over again it's not difficult and and over again it's not difficult and I'm going to give you a tip here uh go

I'm going to give you a tip here uh go I'm going to give you a tip here uh go ahead ask tgbt explain your problem like

ahead ask tgbt explain your problem like ahead ask tgbt explain your problem like what you want to do or just ask for the

what you want to do or just ask for the what you want to do or just ask for the ideas that just explained right so what

ideas that just explained right so what ideas that just explained right so what are some of the ideas that I want to

are some of the ideas that I want to are some of the ideas that I want to play that I want to learn Rex as well as

play that I want to learn Rex as well as play that I want to learn Rex as well as play with the Google search console data

play with the Google search console data play with the Google search console data so what you can do here is and once uh

so what you can do here is and once uh so what you can do here is and once uh chair GPT suggest you some you know give

chair GPT suggest you some you know give chair GPT suggest you some you know give you any suggestions you can re askk uh

you any suggestions you can re askk uh you any suggestions you can re askk uh like hey I want to write the reic for

like hey I want to write the reic for like hey I want to write the reic for this stuff so please write the reic for

this stuff so please write the reic for this stuff so please write the reic for me and it it will write the whole Rex

me and it it will write the whole Rex me and it it will write the whole Rex thing for you so that's really

thing for you so that's really thing for you so that's really powerful thank you so much for that no

powerful thank you so much for that no powerful thank you so much for that no one else is listening I I'm uh very

one else is listening I I'm uh very one else is listening I I'm uh very happy happy happy uh so you said you sell a lot of links

uh so you said you sell a lot of links uh so you said you sell a lot of links and we know that in the background uh

and we know that in the background uh and we know that in the background uh people are getting decimated with Google

people are getting decimated with Google people are getting decimated with Google dumping a affiliate sites upside down

dumping a affiliate sites upside down dumping a affiliate sites upside down what would you say is either the new

what would you say is either the new what would you say is either the new link building or um what what's like an

link building or um what what's like an link building or um what what's like an evergreen L link building strategy or

evergreen L link building strategy or evergreen L link building strategy or what kind of links are you building that what kind of links are you building that what kind of links are you building that you recommend people need to focus on um

you recommend people need to focus on um you recommend people need to focus on um and cut away from the garbage spam

and cut away from the garbage spam and cut away from the garbage spam stuff yeah so uh honestly speaking like

stuff yeah so uh honestly speaking like stuff yeah so uh honestly speaking like we do a lot of high quality guest Po and

we do a lot of high quality guest Po and we do a lot of high quality guest Po and when I say high quality I mean it uh

when I say high quality I mean it uh when I say high quality I mean it uh like it's really from the websites with

like it's really from the websites with like it's really from the websites with like really good traffic graphs uh like

like really good traffic graphs uh like like really good traffic graphs uh like traffic and the real Dr not the

traffic and the real Dr not the traffic and the real Dr not the manipulated one uh and the second thing

manipulated one uh and the second thing manipulated one uh and the second thing is that I would highly recommend is is that I would highly recommend is is that I would highly recommend is focusing on linkable assets uh like

focusing on linkable assets uh like focusing on linkable assets uh like building the content in a way that you

building the content in a way that you building the content in a way that you can rank that content promote that

can rank that content promote that can rank that content promote that content and ultimately get those links

content and ultimately get those links content and ultimately get those links going on and the Evergreen strategy is

going on and the Evergreen strategy is going on and the Evergreen strategy is again honestly speaking it's guest for

again honestly speaking it's guest for again honestly speaking it's guest for like it's been working for like last 12

like it's been working for like last 12 like it's been working for like last 12 years or 14 years now so and it's

years or 14 years now so and it's years or 14 years now so and it's working for a reason like Google Google

working for a reason like Google Google working for a reason like Google Google can easily track linkage searches Google

can easily track linkage searches Google can easily track linkage searches Google can easily track guestpost right so but

can easily track guestpost right so but can easily track guestpost right so but they are not taking action on it that's

they are not taking action on it that's they are not taking action on it that's for a reason right since it's in the DNA

for a reason right since it's in the DNA for a reason right since it's in the DNA of Google to base their

of Google to base their of Google to base their algorithm on links right so they can't

algorithm on links right so they can't algorithm on links right so they can't really get out of it like ranking the

really get out of it like ranking the really get out of it like ranking the websites not because of Link it's it's

websites not because of Link it's it's websites not because of Link it's it's in their DNA that they should consider

in their DNA that they should consider in their DNA that they should consider who who are the website that are linking

who who are the website that are linking who who are the website that are linking to uh that you you know Target website

to uh that you you know Target website to uh that you you know Target website so uh if if we talk about the future of

so uh if if we talk about the future of so uh if if we talk about the future of it it like it's safe in my opinion like

it it like it's safe in my opinion like it it like it's safe in my opinion like for the next three years or so uh links

for the next three years or so uh links for the next three years or so uh links are not going anywhere uh unless Google

are not going anywhere uh unless Google are not going anywhere uh unless Google exist um so I'm talking about by the way

exist um so I'm talking about by the way exist um so I'm talking about by the way Page rank here if you want to learn more Page rank here if you want to learn more Page rank here if you want to learn more about it so right so here's one of my

about it so right so here's one of my about it so right so here's one of my examples I had someone that published an

examples I had someone that published an examples I had someone that published an article that used like a small data set

article that used like a small data set article that used like a small data set from our company statr and it generated

from our company statr and it generated from our company statr and it generated I think 10 or 15 or 20 articles DPR yeah

I think 10 or 15 or 20 articles DPR yeah I think 10 or 15 or 20 articles DPR yeah yeah so only a couple of them linked out

yeah so only a couple of them linked out yeah so only a couple of them linked out and I like I had a lot of SEO saying you

and I like I had a lot of SEO saying you and I like I had a lot of SEO saying you could chase down all those sites that

could chase down all those sites that could chase down all those sites that didn't link now should we always do that

didn't link now should we always do that didn't link now should we always do that or is it is it okay to have like a lot

or is it is it okay to have like a lot or is it is it okay to have like a lot of brand mentions where there's no

of brand mentions where there's no of brand mentions where there's no link um with with this AI stuff going on

link um with with this AI stuff going on link um with with this AI stuff going on I I I think un unlined brand mentions equals

think un unlined brand mentions equals think un unlined brand mentions equals to Brand mentions right do you know what

to Brand mentions right do you know what to Brand mentions right do you know what I mean so it's not really like uh you

I mean so it's not really like uh you I mean so it's not really like uh you should really have all of those you know

should really have all of those you know should really have all of those you know links pointing to you where your brand

links pointing to you where your brand links pointing to you where your brand is mentioned if you have like couple of

is mentioned if you have like couple of is mentioned if you have like couple of them where they are not linking to you

them where they are not linking to you them where they are not linking to you no problem at all you have got your

no problem at all you have got your no problem at all you have got your brand name there unless it's just like U

brand name there unless it's just like U brand name there unless it's just like U you know any exact match domain I'm not

you know any exact match domain I'm not you know any exact match domain I'm not talking about so so I'm talking about

talking about so so I'm talking about talking about so so I'm talking about like we are talking about brand mentions

like we are talking about brand mentions like we are talking about brand mentions like the real brand uh for the real

like the real brand uh for the real like the real brand uh for the real Brands uh so that is one thing and if if

Brands uh so that is one thing and if if Brands uh so that is one thing and if if they're not linking to you try running

they're not linking to you try running they're not linking to you try running some Google ads for that and I don't

some Google ads for that and I don't some Google ads for that and I don't really share these secrets over the part

really share these secrets over the part really share these secrets over the part brast of stuff but again I'm more than

brast of stuff but again I'm more than brast of stuff but again I'm more than happy to share it so uh if you have

happy to share it so uh if you have happy to share it so uh if you have created like a statistical page and uh

created like a statistical page and uh created like a statistical page and uh just try to you know run some Facebook

just try to you know run some Facebook just try to you know run some Facebook ads for some days like journalist or

ads for some days like journalist or ads for some days like journalist or those people who link to those content

those people who link to those content those people who link to those content are really in a hurry so they just

are really in a hurry so they just are really in a hurry so they just really want to link out to the stuff

really want to link out to the stuff really want to link out to the stuff that is you know out there on the top so

that is you know out there on the top so that is you know out there on the top so uh unless it's in the marketing nich

uh unless it's in the marketing nich uh unless it's in the marketing nich just beware about it uh because we as

just beware about it uh because we as just beware about it uh because we as marketers don't really click on ads

marketers don't really click on ads marketers don't really click on ads right so we really are look looking for

right so we really are look looking for right so we really are look looking for the organic results but if we talk about

the organic results but if we talk about the organic results but if we talk about like in the construction industry or uh

like in the construction industry or uh like in the construction industry or uh anywhere where there is not more of like

anywhere where there is not more of like anywhere where there is not more of like techn like tech knowledge uh like

techn like tech knowledge uh like techn like tech knowledge uh like knowledge of Technology that's what I

knowledge of Technology that's what I knowledge of Technology that's what I mean so you can really create the

mean so you can really create the mean so you can really create the statistical content and try running some

statistical content and try running some statistical content and try running some Google ads and you will get some links

Google ads and you will get some links Google ads and you will get some links out of it and you will really notice in

out of it and you will really notice in out of it and you will really notice in a like the exact URL contains your

a like the exact URL contains your a like the exact URL contains your Google you know GTM or the whole URL

Google you know GTM or the whole URL Google you know GTM or the whole URL right so

right so right so yeah very good point so running towards

yeah very good point so running towards yeah very good point so running towards uh the end and I want to ask the the

uh the end and I want to ask the the uh the end and I want to ask the the last question which is what do you see last question which is what do you see last question which is what do you see of the future of affilate marketing as

of the future of affilate marketing as of the future of affilate marketing as it intersects with business

it intersects with business it intersects with business intelligence uh I think I have answered

intelligence uh I think I have answered intelligence uh I think I have answered this question a little bit earlier but

this question a little bit earlier but this question a little bit earlier but uh affiliate marketing will be there you

uh affiliate marketing will be there you uh affiliate marketing will be there you know until businesses exist it's not

know until businesses exist it's not know until businesses exist it's not going going going anywhere like if if you just think about

anywhere like if if you just think about anywhere like if if you just think about affiliate marketing outside is year it's

affiliate marketing outside is year it's affiliate marketing outside is year it's just you are generating leads uh for for

just you are generating leads uh for for just you are generating leads uh for for a business and you're getting commission

a business and you're getting commission a business and you're getting commission out of it and business runs on sales

out of it and business runs on sales out of it and business runs on sales it's it's just the oxygen of any it's it's just the oxygen of any it's it's just the oxygen of any business out there right so whether you

business out there right so whether you business out there right so whether you talk about any Tech business

talk about any Tech business talk about any Tech business construction Machinery whatever it is

construction Machinery whatever it is construction Machinery whatever it is like business runs on sales and that's

like business runs on sales and that's like business runs on sales and that's it and you are helping them selling

it and you are helping them selling it and you are helping them selling those those those leads like I'm not a go talking about

leads like I'm not a go talking about leads like I'm not a go talking about SEO just like only SEO you can think

SEO just like only SEO you can think SEO just like only SEO you can think about SEO is just the way to get the

about SEO is just the way to get the about SEO is just the way to get the traffic you can just change your way to

traffic you can just change your way to traffic you can just change your way to get the traffic affiliate marketing is

get the traffic affiliate marketing is get the traffic affiliate marketing is not going anywhere but anytime any day I

not going anywhere but anytime any day I not going anywhere but anytime any day I would prefer my own products when it

would prefer my own products when it would prefer my own products when it comes to affiliate marketing or like

comes to affiliate marketing or like comes to affiliate marketing or like choosing between my own product or

choosing between my own product or choosing between my own product or affiliate marketing uh I would choose my

affiliate marketing uh I would choose my affiliate marketing uh I would choose my own product since maybe it's just due to

own product since maybe it's just due to own product since maybe it's just due to my personality type but again uh with

my personality type but again uh with my personality type but again uh with owning your own products you have to

owning your own products you have to owning your own products you have to really Source you know Source the thing

really Source you know Source the thing really Source you know Source the thing uh you know invest in resources and

uh you know invest in resources and uh you know invest in resources and stuff like that but with AFF flate

stuff like that but with AFF flate stuff like that but with AFF flate marketing you are just like okay here

marketing you are just like okay here marketing you are just like okay here are five lads that's it you don't have

are five lads that's it you don't have are five lads that's it you don't have to do anything right your focus is

to do anything right your focus is to do anything right your focus is really you know just generating those

really you know just generating those really you know just generating those leads for that business so until the

leads for that business so until the leads for that business so until the business exist you affiliate marketing

business exist you affiliate marketing business exist you affiliate marketing is not going to Dead uh that's just my

is not going to Dead uh that's just my is not going to Dead uh that's just my two cents so I agree so I think to

two cents so I agree so I think to two cents so I agree so I think to summarize this whole podcast I mean we

summarize this whole podcast I mean we summarize this whole podcast I mean we went down a lot of rabbit holes but I went down a lot of rabbit holes but I went down a lot of rabbit holes but I mean it really comes full circle back to

mean it really comes full circle back to mean it really comes full circle back to audience it sounds like a basic concept

audience it sounds like a basic concept audience it sounds like a basic concept but I think in STO and affiliate

but I think in STO and affiliate but I think in STO and affiliate marketing and e-commerce uh people are

marketing and e-commerce uh people are marketing and e-commerce uh people are focused more on the end result the sale

focused more on the end result the sale focused more on the end result the sale itself but they're not going well you

itself but they're not going well you itself but they're not going well you got to start with the audience and it's

got to start with the audience and it's got to start with the audience and it's kind of funny that when you break down kind of funny that when you break down kind of funny that when you break down these basic principles it's just it's

these basic principles it's just it's these basic principles it's just it's obvious it's everything's in front of

obvious it's everything's in front of obvious it's everything's in front of you but um I guess that's just the world

you but um I guess that's just the world you but um I guess that's just the world we live

we live we live in that's why I you know said this

in that's why I you know said this in that's why I you know said this earlier in my podcast like focus on how

earlier in my podcast like focus on how earlier in my podcast like focus on how you can Target an audience segment like

you can Target an audience segment like you can Target an audience segment like maybe you can Target three audience maybe you can Target three audience maybe you can Target three audience segments not one but focus on how you

segments not one but focus on how you segments not one but focus on how you can target audience segments not on nich

can target audience segments not on nich can target audience segments not on nich based on the keywords right so when you

based on the keywords right so when you based on the keywords right so when you have like when you're are focusing on have like when you're are focusing on have like when you're are focusing on audience Target or segment you are

audience Target or segment you are audience Target or segment you are calculating the total addressable market

calculating the total addressable market calculating the total addressable market and stuff like that where where you are

and stuff like that where where you are and stuff like that where where you are thinking more being a marketer rather

thinking more being a marketer rather thinking more being a marketer rather than an SEO right so when you are

than an SEO right so when you are than an SEO right so when you are talking about nature research keyword

talking about nature research keyword talking about nature research keyword research or anything like that you're

research or anything like that you're research or anything like that you're totally focusing on you know talking

totally focusing on you know talking totally focusing on you know talking like a uh an SEO rather than a marketer

like a uh an SEO rather than a marketer like a uh an SEO rather than a marketer so and you not is here I'm basing my

so and you not is here I'm basing my so and you not is here I'm basing my decision on data with both approaches so

decision on data with both approaches so decision on data with both approaches so right makes sense Umar thank you so much

right makes sense Umar thank you so much right makes sense Umar thank you so much for doing this uh I'll include the links

for doing this uh I'll include the links for doing this uh I'll include the links in the show notes but let uh let us know

in the show notes but let uh let us know in the show notes but let uh let us know how people can get a hold of you uh yeah

how people can get a hold of you uh yeah how people can get a hold of you uh yeah for sure uh you can follow me on

for sure uh you can follow me on for sure uh you can follow me on Facebook I'm very active on my Facebook

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awesome thank you so much for doing this awesome thank you so much for doing this yeah thank you so much for having

yeah thank you so much for having yeah thank you so much for having me thank you for tuning in to the

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